Friday, November 17, 2006

Nathalie Gettliffe Refuses to Meet With French Journalists At Alouette Prison in Canada



According to the Agence-France Presse, Nathalie Gettliffe, imprisoned in the Alouette Correctional Centre in Maple Ridge, near Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada, apparently refused to meet with a group of French journalists who had arrived with the purpose of inspecting the prison and the conditions under which Nathalie and her infant son, Martin, are forced to live.

She explained her decision in a handwritten document, underlining the possibility that all information regarding her detention could be perceived in a "negative manner" by the judge who will decide her sentencing at the beginning of December, next month.

A group of a half a dozen of French journalists visited the prison on Thursday, according to a trip organized by the Canadian Embassy in France, which was intended to review and report on the Canadian judicial system and the Canadian penitentiary.

Ms Gettliffe did not wish to meet the group. One of the journalists wrote a letter asking to speak with her, but she replied in writing something to the effect of, and we paraphrase, 'I cannot speak to you due to a sentencing hearing coming up on November 30 and the 1st December. All positive or negative information concerning my current conditions of detention can be perceived in a negative manner by the judge in charge of ruling. I remain therefore silent and in suffering, on the counsel of my lawyer. Thank-you again for caring about my case and Martin.'

Nathalie Gettliffe referred to her baby son to whom she gave birth on September 26, during her detention. The Canadian authorities indicated Wednesday that an audience devoted to the sentence of Ms Gettliffe would take place on November 30 and 1st December.

The 35 year-old mother of four pled guilty to the accusation to have removed, in 2001, the two children of her marriage with the Canadian, Scott Grant, an offence of a maximum penalty of 10 years of prison.

Her guilty plea avoids the trials that should have begun November 20. It remains for the judge to decide sentencing after having heard the respective arguments of the accusation and defense at the end of November.

The young mother was arrested in Vancouver on April 11 2006 and has been forced to remain in prison as two Canadian Supreme Court Judges have denied her bail.

The two children of Nathalie Gettliffe's marriage to Scott Grant are currently court-ordered to live with him in Canada.

Nathalie Gettliffe refuse de recevoir un groupe de journalistes français



AFP 16.11.06 | 22h58

Nathalie Gettliffe, incarcérée au Canada depuis avril pour l'enlèvement de deux de ses enfants, a refusé jeudi de s'entretenir avec un groupe de journalistes français venus la rencontrer et visiter sa prison.
La Française a expliqué sa décision dans une note manuscrite, soulignant que toute information sur ses conditions de détention pourrait être perçue "de façon négative" par le juge qui décidera de sa peine début décembre.

Un groupe d'une demi-douzaine de journalistes français a visité jeudi sa prison, le centre correctionnel pour femmes à Maple Ridge (ouest), dans le cadre d'un voyage organisé par l'ambassade du Canada en France pour mieux faire connaître le système judiciaire et pénitentiaire canadien.

Mme Gettliffe n'a pas souhaité rencontrer le groupe. Celui-ci lui a alors adressé un lettre demandant un entretien, requête à laquelle Mme Gettliffe a répondu par écrit.

"Je ne peux pas vous parler car j'ai une audience de remise de peine le 30 novembre et le 1er décembre. Toute information positive ou négative concernant mes conditions actuelles de détention peuvent être perçues de façon négative par le juge chargé de statuer. Je reste donc silencieuse et dans la souffrance, sur les conseils de mon avocat", a-t-elle expliqué.

"Merci encore de vous préoccuper de mon dossier et de Martin", a ajouté Mme Gettliffe en évoquant le bébé auquel elle a donné naissance le 26 septembre, pendant sa détention.

La justice canadienne a indiqué mercredi qu'une audience consacrée à la sentence de Mme Gettliffe aurait lieu les 30 novembre et 1er décembre.

La femme âgée de 35 ans, a plaidé coupable de l'accusation d'avoir enlevé, en 2001, les deux enfants de son mariage avec le Canadien Scott Grant, un délit passible d'une peine maximale de 10 ans de prison.

Son plaidoyer de culpabilité évite le procès qui aurait dû commencer le 20 novembre et il appartient désormais au juge de fixer la sentence après avoir entendu les arguments respectifs de l'accusation et de la défense, lors des audiences du 30 novembre et 1er décembre.

La jeune femme avait été arrêtée à Vancouver le 11 avril 2006 et est en prison depuis cette date, la justice canadienne ayant refusé à deux reprises de la remettre en liberté conditionnelle.

Elle avait justifié son départ du Canada pour la France en 2001 en expliquant qu'elle voulait soustraire ses deux enfants à l'influence de leur père, membre de l'Eglise internationale du Christ, considérée comme un mouvement sectaire par un rapport parlementaire français, mais légale au Canada.

Les deux enfants de son mariage avec M. Grant ont été remis à leur père par la justice française en juillet dernier et vivent actuellement avec lui au Canada.

Wednesday, November 15, 2006

La juge Garson est depuis le début en faveur de Scott Grant :



- le 6 septembre 2001, Garson accorde la garde exclusive au père, une semaine après le départ de la mère et elle lance un mandat d'arrêt, sans avoir pris la peine de permettre à Nathalie une défense et une explication (via un avocat...) du pourquoi de son départ.
Cette décision était inutile pour entamer une procédure de retour "Convention de La
Haye", qui était possible dès la date de la violation des droits de visite du père
(j'ignore si il avait ce droit de visite avant le 6 septembre 2001, mais c'est possible)
Que cette décision ait été prise sans possibilité de défense aurait dû alerter la justice française (dans d'autres cas, avec d'autres pays, cela est venu à l'appui d'un refus de retour des enfants...)

- en 2004, Garson a attribué à Scott Grant quelque 78 000 dollars qui appartenaient à la mère de Nathalie et dont il n'était que gestionnaire, avec aucun droit de propriété; elle aurait voulu que Nathalie se présente en personne devant elle...
De quel droit une juge peut "punir" une femme en volant sa mère ?

Je n'ai pas la décision, malgré ma demande à Vincent Pigeon, car la mère de Nathalie

- fin 2004, Garson a levé le mandat d'arrêt et annulé sa décision du 6 septembre 2004, sur demande de Scott Grant, qui acceptait d'entrer dans un médiation internationale.

- fin 2005, Garson a de nouveau décidé que la garde exclusive serait à SG, sur demande de celui-ci.
Elle n'ignorait pas qu'une médiation était en cours, elle n'a pas pris le soin de vérifier si elle était ou non terminée sur un échec ou alors a été trompée.

La mère n'avait pas été du tout prévenue et c'est par hasard qu'elle l'a su.
Plus vicieux encore, c'est en novembre 2005, donc après cette décision, que les services de l'AG de BC ont envoyé à Nathalie... une copie de la décision d'annulation datant de 2001 !
Louis Ripault, Paris France

Tuesday, November 14, 2006

Canadian Families Shocked by Light Sentence for Sexual Offenders

Families shocked by sentence for Winnipeg couple who sexually assaulted teens

14 Nov, 6:34 PM

WINNIPEG (CP) - Family members of two young sex assault victims cursed and sobbed in court Tuesday after a judge handed down what they considered light sentences for a husband and wife who lured the girls to their home and raped them.

Winnipeg police and justice officials have called the case one of the worst they've ever seen, and it has drawn comparisons to the shocking sex murders of two Ontario schoolgirls by Paul Bernardo and Karla Homolka.

The 25-year-old woman, who was convicted of three counts of sexual assault and forcible confinement, was to be released Tuesday after Justice Gerald Jewers gave her a sentence equal to the two years she spent in pretrial custody.

Her common-law husband, who was convicted of eight charges including kidnapping and sexual assault, was sentenced to seven additional years in prison. Jewers said he was given less credit for time served because of his "continuous and appalling bad behaviour" in custody.
The pair, dressed in matching grey sweatshirts, chatted amicably in the prisoners box while waiting for Jewers to arrive.

As the man, now 34, was led out of the courtroom in handcuffs, he aimed a smile towards some of the victims' relatives and rubbed his hands together.

"I'm very upset," one woman said through tears as she left the courthouse. "My family's very upset."

Another woman said the female accused was Manitoba's answer to Karla Homolka.

One young victim testified that as a 12-year-old she was held as a sex slave by the couple for several months, given pills and alcohol and tied to a bed and raped.

The victim, now 14, said she was twice abducted off the street, including one time that involved her being thrown in the trunk of a car.

The girl is a cousin of the woman. Her attackers are not being named in order to protect her identity.

Another victim, now 20 years old, testified she was 13 when she started going to the couple's house, where she was offered free liquor. The first time, the man raped her while the wife held her down, she said.

Fear kept her going back to the house, every weekend for a year or two, because the man told her he knew Hells Angels members and he would torture and kill her and her family, she said.

The girl became pregnant with the man's child when she was 16.

Crown prosecutor Jill Duncan had asked for sentences of up to 18 years for the man and up to eight years for his spouse.

She said both girls are still struggling to recover from their ordeal, but a psychological assessment of the 14-year-old victim is especially discouraging.

"This girl has no hope, she has no dreams, she has no future," said Duncan. "It's unfathomable the damage this girl has undertaken."

During a sentencing hearing last month, Duncan said the crimes could only be described as evil.

"The extent of the depravity and perverseness of this case is rarely seen."

Duncan noted that while she never mentioned in court the similarities to the Bernardo and Homolka case, the comparison has been made to her "innumerable times."

Bernardo is serving a life sentence for the sex slayings of Kristen French and Leslie Mahaffy in the early 1990s.

His former wife, Homolka, is living in Montreal after serving her full 12-year manslaughter sentence.

The Winnipeg couple faced 21 charges, but Jewers said not all the charges were proven to his satisfaction.

"What remains is serious enough."

He said the couple showed no remorse and did not spare their victims the trauma of testifying.

But he also noted the woman did not have a prior record and the man had only one dated, minor conviction that was unrelated to the current charges.

Defence lawyer Jeff Nichols, who represents the man, said he'll review the merits of an appeal, especially on the judge's decision not to grant the standard credit of double-time for pretrial custody.

He said it is "a tremendous exaggeration" to compare the case to Bernardo.

"There was a lot of evidence presented that ultimately, at the end of the day, the court decided not to accept," said Nichols.


News from © The Canadian Press

La Justice Refuse a Nathalie Gettliffe La Garde Conjointe De Ses Enfants




AFP. Publié le 14 novembre 2006Actualisé le 14 novembre 2006 : 21h46

Nathalie Gettliffe, emprisonnée au Canada depuis avril pour l'enlèvement des deux enfants de son mariage avec le Canadien Scott Grant, ne s’est pas vu accorder la garde des deux enfants.

La Française avait demandé dans une action au civil à se voir reconnaître la garde conjointe des enfants. Mais la juge Nicole Garson, de la Cour suprême de Colombie-Britannique, a refusé de se prononcer sur sa demande, tant que la Française est encore en prison.

Elle a ainsi confirmé, au moins temporairement, la garde des deux enfants âgés de 11 ans pour l'un et de bientôt 13 ans pour l'autre à leur père Scott Grant.

Judge Garson Rebukes Nathalie Gettliffe in B.C. Supreme Court

14 Nov, 5:16 PM

VANCOUVER (CP) - A French woman who abducted her kids received a scathing rebuke from the judge in her child custody case Tuesday.

In the latest instalment of what has been described as an international soap opera, Justice Nicole Garson decided that the ex-husband of Nathalie Gettliffe would keep interim custody of the children but Gettliffe would be allowed more frequent visits.

The judge didn’t mince words about Gettliffe’s conduct over the past five years as she ruled that Scott Grant, father of Max, 12, and Josephine, 11, would continue to have interim custody. Permanent custody will be sorted out a trial sometime in the future.

“In this case, Miss Gettliffe has denied (the children) permission to love their father,” Garson said in her ruling on the custody battle.

“This order is designed to redress to the extent possible that harm.”

The case has attracted wide attention, particularly in France, over the woman’s abduction of the children to France from Vancouver in 2001.

The case’s twists and turns have included citings of the Hague Convention, nasty accusations in France against her ex-husband, Gettliffe’s voluntary return in immediate arrest in Vancouver, charges that she was abused in prison where she also gave birth to a new son, and allegations that her Canadian ex-husband belonged to a cult-like church.

Gettliffe also announced recently that she wants to run for the presidency of France.

On the criminal side of the ledger, she pleaded guilty to abduction in B.C. Supreme Court earlier this month and will be sentenced later.

On Tuesday, as Grant sat in court and the former couple’s two lawyers handling the civil matter listened to the oral ruling, the judge raked Gettliffe over the coals. At the conclusion, Grant’s lawyer, Theresa Stowe, turned and smiled broadly at him.

“Miss Gettliffe has conducted a publicity campaign to support her decision to defy the Canadian and French court orders,” said Garson.

“She set up an Internet website and association to protect her children. She has made numerous public statements about Mr. Grant and his religious practices. She has exposed her children to the public campaign.”

The judge said Gettliffe appeared “completely without insight as to any potential damage such a custody battle could have on her children.”

Gettliffe had asked the court to see her children twice weekly but the judge sided with Grant, who wanted two visits a month. Still, that order allowed her more visits than the total of six times the children have visited her in jail since April.

The children now live with the father alone in suburban Surrey, B.C., but they “are not affectionate with him” as they were before their abduction.

“The children have been rude and angry at times,” the judge said, allowing that they miss their mother.

She said their behaviour was not surprising since they have spent little time with their father in the past five years.

“I infer from the evidence that they have been told over the past five years that he was not a suitable father,” said Garson.

The children must have time to establish affection “without interference from her.”

“That relationship cannot be nurtured if Miss Gettliffe continues her campaign of vilifying Mr. Grant to the children.”

While she will be allowed more frequent visits, the court ordered her to refrain from making “adverse comments” about the father or his church.

She must also not discuss with the kids any possible return to France.

The jail visits must be supervised because Gettliffe does not appreciate the impact on her children of her “very public campaign” against Grant.

Gettliffe also had asked the court to allow her children contact with friends and relatives in France, but the judge again sided with Grant and left it to him to decide on the degree of contact.

“I am also concerned that such communications might be misused by Miss Gettliffe, her husband or supporters in their continued efforts to maintain public support for the custody battle.

Gettliffe was arrested in April when she returned to defend her PhD thesis in linguistics at the University of British Columbia.

The judge suggested that she returned because her arrest and contempt order, issued in 2001 after she fled, were set aside in 2004 at Grant’s request.

“He took this step because he believed Miss Gettliffe might voluntarily return to Canada if she were not in jeopardy of being arrested,” the judge said.

Gettliffe said previously she took her children to France to remove them from the influence of their father because of his activities in a church that’s considered a cult in France - the International Church of Christ.

But the judge said Gettliffe never talked disparagingly of his church until she reached France.

Although the mother had also asked the court to prevent Grant from taking the kids to his church, the judge allowed him to take them but no more than once a week.

Monday, November 13, 2006

French Journalists Travel To Vancouver, Canada to Report On Nathalie Gettliffe Case




Word on the street has it that at least 10 French journalists are on their way to Vancouver, British Columbia, in Canada, for a week to report on the living conditions of Nathalie Gettliffe and her infant son, Martin Gruzelle-Gettliffe.

We're not yet sure if this is sponsored by the French or Canadian government, but it is an interesting development nonetheless.

Nathalie Gettliffe has been incarcerated since April this year, and her two young children, Josephine and Maximillien Gettliffe-Grant have been forced to live in Canada against their wills with their father, Scott Grant.
Neither child speaks English, as they have been raised in France for the past five years.
We are waiting to hear from the Ministry of Children and Family Development in British Columbia to understand how they will assist the children to visit their mother and infant brother on a regular basis, given that Scott Grant appears to deny them this right, at whim.

We are concerned for the children, that they have been caught up in a manipulated situation where one spouse is taking advantage of the criminal justice sytem in order to punish his former wife, despite the fact that he signed a document stating that he agreed that their children would live their mother in France.

Something smells awful in the land of Canada....

Ministry of Children and Family Development of B.C. Replies Regarding Josephine and Maximilien Gettliffe-Grant

----- Original Message -----
From: McNeill, Bruce MCF:EX
To: lisa@canadachildrenfirst.com
Sent: Friday, September 08, 2006 4:05 PM
Subject: Your letter to the Deputy Minister


(reference #: 156380)

September 8, 2006

Lisa Haeck
Director, Canada Children First
British Columbia Canada

Dear Ms Haeck

The Deputy Minister of Children and Family Development, Lesley du Toit, has requested that I respond to your e-mail letter of August 24, 2006. I wish to thank you for taking the time to bring these concerns to the Deputy Minister’s attention.

Your letter expressed concerns about the welfare of two children who were repatriated to Canada recently and whose mother is now incarcerated. While I am not, due to privacy and confidentiality considerations, able to discuss an individual family’s circumstances with you, I can assure you that in such situations, the Ministry is very willing to provide family support services.

Thank you once again for your letter.



Yours truly

Bruce McNeill,
Director of Child Welfare, Fraser Region
(604)586-2628 Fax (604) 586-4153
"Value the Vulnerable"

Sunday, November 12, 2006

Lettres de Prison: Nathalie Gettliffe



Description du produit
Présentation de l'éditeurLes autorités de la Colombie-Britannique lui avaient interdit de quitter le territoire avec ses deux enfants. Seulement ces enfants étaient en danger, prisonniers d'une secte dont son ex-mari canadien fait partie depuis plusieurs années. Alors Nathalie Gettliffe, une jeune Française de 35 ans, s'est enfuie avec eux dans son pays natal. Donc elle a bafoué la loi. Mais est-ce une raison pour la traiter comme une dangereuse criminelle ? Au fil des lettres qu'elle a envoyées à ses proches et que présente ici son nouveau compagnon, on découvre peu à peu le traquenard dans lequel elle est tombée. Arrestation dès qu'elle pose le pied à Vancouver où elle était censée venir signer un protocole d'accord. Incarcération dans des conditions abominables, sans égards pour la santé du bébé qu'elle attend. Omniprésence de la secte dans les coulisses des prétoires et de la presse, refus de mise en liberté provisoire. Au terme d'un procès prévu en novembre 2006, Nathalie Gettliffe risque... dix ans de prison. Mais elle continue de lutter, et de demander qu'on lui vienne en aide. Ces lettres sont aussi publiées dans ce but.

La Visite Prevue de Max et Josephine, les enfants de Nathalie Gettliffe, a ete annulee




Report de l’audience préparatoire au procès. La Colombie-Britannique continue dans le lamentable…Une communication téléphonique de Nathalie avec sa maman dimanche 22: Martin va bien mais la visite prévue de Max et Jo a été annulée. Aucune raison invoquée pour les deux cas...

1 – Avis de recherche
Afin de préparer le procès il faut absolument que nous ayons les contacts suivants :
-A Vancouver l’ex épouse de Tom KRIEDEMAN berger spirituel de Scott que Nathalie a supporté bien des jours et des soirées (voir des nuits) dans sa maison avant de fuir de guerre lasse. Ce Tom a vu sa femme, une Autrichienne, le quitter. Son contact en vue de témoignage nous est indispensable.

-A Vancouver l’ex-épouse du procureur Mike LUCHENKO qui vit avec la mère de Scott Grant et qui a signé le bulletin d’écrou illégal de Nathalie.

-Pour les recherches en France: essayer de savoir la réalité du centre Tomatis de Vancouver dans lequel travaillait sous ce vocable Larré et sa bande. Est-ce une émergence officielle du Tomatis Français ?

2 - Enfants
Rien de neuf sur leur état de santé… le Ministère des Affaires Etrangères, contacté par téléphone lundi, ne dit rien connaître de nouveau; le Consul de Vancouver ayant été saisi (encore et encore !!!). L’association ne peut essayer d’en savoir plus au risque de faire payer aux enfants notre aide et de voir reprocher à Nathalie lors du procès notre action qui sera retenue contre elle.

3 - Nathalie, 199 jours de détention…
Pour répondre à la question de la négociation avec Scott Grant, nous sommes dans la situation de 38 : il n’est ni possible ni utile de négocier avec un pervers. L’histoire de Nathalie nous montre même qu’il est dangereux de négocier avec Scott lequel n’ayant aucun sens de l’altérité, est le type même du pervers.
Pervers qui se dit bon chrétien charitable mais- jouit de voir son ex-épouse en prison pour punition de ne pas lui avoir obéi,- prend son pied à accompagner ses enfants voir leur mère coupable en tôle,- exulte de se venger de la nouvelle cellule familiale crée en maintenant Martin le frère et fils en incarcération.

Oui c’est vraiment une bonne et charitable Eglise que celle qu’il fréquente… il n’est pas étonnant que le « père » Larre prêtre condamné pour violence et pédophilie soit dans cette mouvance, d’autant que l’Archidiocèse de Vancouver, auquel il a été imposé après sescrimes, s’en démarque très nettement.
Diffusez ce bulletin aux amis sûr et autorités…
Jean-Louis BAERT
Président de l'association
S'unir pour protéger Maximilen et Joséphine.

Women Barred from Justice



Women barred from justice
Conditions for women in prisons in BC are deplorable and unnecessary
by Sonia Marino

Although the vast majority of women in prison are incarcerated for non-violent offences and pose no threat to the community, many women in prison in BC are held under conditions that are far more severe than their crime warrants. The closure of the Burnaby Correctional Centre for Women in 2004 has brought many changes for women in prison in BC.

Provincially-sentenced women (those sentenced to less than two years) are now mainly held in the Alouette Correctional Centre for Women in Maple Ridge. Many of the women imprisoned at Alouette are classified as minimum security but have no access to a minimum-security prison environment. The conditions at Alouette are officially said to be designed for women classified as medium security, but a full perimeter fence and other security measures suggest that the conditions are actually more like maximum security.

However, provincially-sentenced women designated as maximum security are held in virtual isolation in a maximum security unit inside the Surrey Pretrial Centre, a men’s prison. Women are serving time in men's lock-ups all over the province (including in the Prince George Regional Correctional Centre) under conditions that are not appropriate to either their gender or their security classification.

Federally-sentenced women (those sentenced to two years or more) are now held in the Fraser Valley Institution for Women in Abbotsford. Although Fraser Valley already has a maximum-security perimeter, a new Maximum Security Unit has been built (at great expense) and is scheduled to open in August 2005. Yet despite a recommendation by the Canadian Human Rights Commission, the Correctional Service of Canada has failed to build a minimum security unit at Fraser Valley outside the perimeter. Women designated as minimum security are living under maximum security conditions at this prison.

At the Burnaby Correctional Centre for Women, women with a minimum security designation had access to an open living unit which held up to 28 minimum security prisoners. When the Burnaby centre closed, the cell space for women prisoners in BC increased by over 100 beds, but women designated minimum security no longer have access to a minimum security prison.

The only real minimum security prison for federally sentenced women in Canada is the Isabel McNeill Minimum Security House in Kingston, Ontario. The Correctional Service of Canada keeps threatening to close Isabel McNeill, however, so women are hesitant to transfer there.

Having access to a minimum security prison is essential for women, as they require opportunities to leave the prison to work and to build community supports to prepare for release. Being held in a higher security prison means being subjected to much more intense surveillance, having less access to programs, and remaining more isolated from the community, all of which put women at a disadvantage when it comes to release from prison.

The Canadian Human Rights Commission recently concluded that “the lack of minimum security facilities for federally-sentenced women prevents them from being incarcerated in the least restrictive conditions possible as required by the Corrections and Conditional Release Act …

Thus, minimum security women live with physical barriers such as fences, locked gates, razor wire and cameras while their male counterparts tend to be housed in facilities that do not even have chain-link fences.”

Despite the fact that almost half of federally sentenced women are designated as minimum security prisoners, only a handful of those women have access to a minimum security facility.
With the announced closure of Kingston’s notorious Prison for Women in 1994, five regional prisons were built. These prisons were supposed to incorporate a more holistic approach to women’s imprisonment based on empowerment, meaningful and responsible choices, respect and dignity, shared responsibility, and supportive environments.

In 1996, after a walkaway escape, slashings and suicide attempts by women in the new regional prisons, the Correctional Services Commission responded by transferring all women classified as maximum security out of the women’s prisons and into isolated sections of men’s maximum security prisons. For the past nine years women have been held in isolation in men’s maximum security prisons.

On March 8 th 2001, the women in Saskatchewan Penitentiary brought a discrimination complaint against Correctional Services. The Canadian Human Rights Commission agreed to investigate. In January 2004 they found discrimination against federally sentenced women based on gender, race and disability, and made 19 recommendations for change. The report, Protecting Their Rights, can be viewed online at chrc-ccdp.ca.

Rather than moving the women out of the men’s prisons and into the existing women’s prisons, Correctional Service has started building new maximum security units within prisons that are already designed for maximum security prisoners. Some of these new maximum security units have already opened, and the conditions under which the women now live are still not equivalent to the conditions for maximum security men: they are much harsher, and more in line with the super maximum conditions at Special Handling Units in men’s prisons.

According to Filis Iverson, prison abolitionist and prison justice day organizer, women in these new “Max Units” spend their first six months locked in their cells, only to come out for doctor’s appointments and visits; they are not allowed to communicate with any other prisoners; and when they come out of their cells they are in leg shackles and handcuffs, and are escorted by two or more guards. “A woman can work her way to the next step where there are no shackles,” Filis explains, “just handcuffs and two guards. But if at any point she exhibits ‘inappropriate behaviour’ she can be sent back to the first step. When one prisoner is out of her cell, all other prisoners are locked up.”
This level of security is not justifiable in terms of women’s crime nor women’s threat to the community. Women are a low risk to re-offend and have high needs in terms of treatment and healing from physical and sexual abuse, substance abuse, employment training, and education.

The majority of maximum security classified women are First Nations women and women with mental health issues. The needs of women in society have been turned into risk factors and as a result women who are the most socially and economically disadvantaged are classified as maximum security.

Despite the fact that a new provincial prison for women at Alouette opened recently in BC, large numbers of provincial women prisoners in this province are being held in men’s lock-ups in virtual isolation. While some northern or rural women might choose this option because it is preferable to being transferred to a women’s prison so far from home and community, others are being held in the Surrey Pre-trial Centre, a men’s lock-up just a short distance away from the women’s prison. Any woman who is being held on remand or on an immigration hold or who is classified as maximum security is being held in an isolated section of the Surrey Pretrial Centre, or other men’s lock-ups in rural communities across the province.
This is unacceptable.

With ample space and a full perimeter fence at Alouette, there is no reason why these women cannot be removed from Surrey Pre-trial (or other men’s lock-ups if they so choose) and held at Alouette. There are few programs and resources available to women held in men’s prisons. The women are being held in virtual isolation, segregated from the programs and treatment that are needed for release.

We encourage you to write to Premier Gordon Campbell and Solicitor General Wally Oppal and urge them to stop holding women in men’s prisons in BC.
This article was written by the Prison Justice Day Committee. Come to the Prison Justice Day Memorial Rally on Wednesday, August 10 th at 7pm at Trout Lake Park in East Vancouver to show your solidarity and support for prisoners and prison justice. For more information, visit prisonjustice.ca
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No Charges To be Laid Against Actress Denise Richards, say RCMP in Vancouver, Canada

Denise Richards

Speaking of injustice....
Did I read correctly? This Hollywood actress/Playboy centrefold injured two elderly women in a Richmond hotel, this past week and the Canadian police won't press charges???
There were over 30 witnesses to Richards's aggressive attack on the reporter and her subsequent violent reaction which caused injuries to two people in the crowd.
In any other circumstance, this would be known as "aggravated assault" or plain and simple, "assault".

Corporal Peter Thiessen, of the Royal Canadian Mounted Police, (RCMP), said on Friday that it is not in the public interest to press criminal charges.
Why not? How do we know that Richards won't throw something else into a crowd next week or next month and injure two children?

What is so special about Denise Richards that she cannot be charged?
In the United States law enforcement has not hesitated to charge Wynona Rider and Daniel Baldwin for theft, which seems minor in comparison to aggressively injuring two elderly ladies.

In our opinion, it doesn't matter who you are lady, the law is supposed to be equal for all. Obviously, in this case, it is more "equal" for a Hollywood actress than for Dr. Nathalie Gettliffe, a Mother of four children who remains imprisoned in Maple Ridge, near Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada, for trying to protect her children from harm.

There is something very, very wrong with the Canadian justice system: mothers and fathers like Nathalie Gettliffe, Carline vandenelsen and Larry Finck and Rob Nicholson come forward to seek protection for their children and are punished/imprisoned/fined or castigated by judges who appear to have lost their minds...
Pedophiles and those who commit crimes against children, like Robin Sharp, David Frost and Dr. Lucien Larre are free to walk the streets.
How on earth are Canadians and their children supposed to feel safe in their communities if the "law" is so unequal?

Parlons de l’injustice…
Ai-t-je lu correctement ? Ceci la pin-up d’actrice de Hollywood a blessé deux femmes âgées dans un hôtel de Richmond, cette semaine passée, et la police canadienne n’appuieront pas de charges ? ? ?
Il y avait par-dessus 30 témoins à l’assaut de Richards agressif sur le journaliste et sa réaction violente subséquente qui ont causé des blessures à deux gens dans la foule.
Dans aucune autre circonstance, ceci serait su comme « a aggravé l’assaut » ou la plaine et simple, l’ « assaut ».

Peter Thiessen, corporal du Canadien Royal Mounted Police, (RCMP), dit vendredi que ce n’est pas dans l’intérêt public pour produire les charges.
Pourquoi pas ? Comment savons-nous que Richards ne lanceront pas quelque chose d’autre dans une foule ou le mois prochain et blesse la semaine prochaine deux enfants ?

Quel est si spécial de Denise Richards qu’elle ne peut pas être chargée ?
Dans les Etats-Unis que l’application de la loi n’a pas hésité pour charger Wynona Rider, Daniel Baldwin pour le vol, qui semble le mineur dans la comparaison à blessant d’une manière agressive deux dames âgées.


Il n’a pas d’importance qui vous êtes Madame, la loi est supposée pour être l’égal pour tout. Evidemment, dans ce cas, c’est plus « égal » pour une actrice de Hollywood que pour Dr. Nathalie Gettliffe, une Mère de quatre enfants qui reste emprisonnés dans Maple Ridge, (approcher de Vancouver, Colombie Britannique, Canada), pour essayer de protéger ses enfants du mal.

Il y a quelque chose très, très mauvais avec le système de justice canadien : les mères et les pères comme Nathalie Gettliffe, Carline vandenelsen et Larry Finck et Rob Nicholson est présenté se chercher la protection pour leurs enfants et est puni/emprisonné/condamné à une amende ou fustigé par les juges qui apparaît avoir perdu leurs esprits...
Les pédophiles et ceux qui commettent des crimes contre les enfants, comme Robin Sharp, la David Frost et Dr. Lucien Larre est libre de marcher les rues.
Comment les Canadiens et leurs enfants sont-ils supposés pour se sentir sûrs dans leurs communautés si la « loi » est s’inégale ?


Last Updated: Friday, November 10, 2006 3:23 PM PT
CBC News
American actress Denise Richards will not be charged in connection with an altercation with two photographers earlier this week at Richmond's River Rock Casino, the RCMP say.
RCMP spokesman Cpl. Peter Thiessen said Friday it's not in the public interest to press criminal charges.
Actress Denise Richards had a run-in with paparazzi in Richmond, B.C., this week.(Chris Pizzello/Associated Press) He added that Richards, her management company and the photographers have agreed to settle the matter of damages civilly.
Richards is in Greater Vancouver shooting the film Blonde and Blonder with Pamela Anderson, who is originally from Vancouver Island.
Wednesday evening's incident was apparently triggered when two photographers got on to the set of the film on the second floor of the casino without permission
Richards was accused of throwing the photographers' laptop computers over the railing into the lobby below, where they grazed two elderly women.
Police said neither the 80-year-old nor the 91-year-old was seriously injured. They were at the casino as part of an organized visit from a Lower Mainland seniors' facility.
Richards has been in the spotlight recently after she split with actor Charlie Sheen.

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/british-columbia/story/2006/11/10/bc-denise-richards.html#skip300x250

Saturday, November 11, 2006

B.C. Judge Rejects Crown's Request for Psychiatric Test in Nathalie Gettliffe Case



November 10, 2006
B.C. judge rejects Crown's psych request in kidnapping case
Globe and Mail
10/11/06
Canadian Press

Vancouver — A B.C. Supreme Court judge has rejected the Crown's request for a psychiatric assessment of a French woman convicted of abducting her two kids.
Justice Marvyn Koenigsberg says there is no evidence to justify such an exam, and calls it a “profound invasion of a person's privacy.”
Prosecutors wanted the assessment before sentencing to determine whether Nathalie Gettliffe posed a risk of kidnapping the children again.
She took her two children to France from Canada in 2001, triggering a five-year legal fight by the Vancouver father, Scott Grant, to bring them home.The defence argued that irrational acts do not mean a person is mentally ill.
A date for a sentencing hearing has not been determined.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/
RTGAM.20061110.wpsych1110/BNStory/National/home
Posted by Perry at 04:22 PM

Pas d'évaluation psychiatrique pour Nathalie Gettliffe
Le vendredi 10 novembre 2006
Presse Canadienne
Vancouver
Une juge de la Cour suprême de Colombie-Britannique a rejeté, vendredi, la requête de la Couronne, qui souhaitait obtenir une évaluation psychiatrique en vue des plaidoiries avant sentence pour la Française Nathalie Gettliffe, qui a plaidé coupable d'avoir enlevé ses deux enfants.

Selon la juge Marvyn Koenigsberg, rien ne justifie une telle évaluation, qui constitue une «invasion profonde de la vie privée».

La Couronne souhaitait obtenir une telle évaluation afin de déterminer si Gettliffe pourrait enlever à nouveau ses deux enfants dont le père, un Canadien, a la garde.

Elle avait enlevé ses deux enfants en 2001 et était retournée en France avec eux, afin, dit-elle, de les soustraire à l'influence de leur père, Scott Grant, un membre d'une église considérée comme une secte en France. La saga judiciaire dure depuis cinq ans.

La date pour les plaidoiries avant sentence n'a pas été fixée.

http://www.cyberpresse.ca/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061110/CPACTUALITES/61110082/1019/CPACTUALITES

Friday, November 10, 2006

Letter to Attorney General of British Columbia, Mr. Wally Oppal



MR. WALLY OPPAL
Attorney General of B.C.
Room 232Parliament BuildingsVictoria, BCV8V 1X4
Phone: 250 387-1866
Fax: 250 387-6411


RE: NATHALIE GETTLIFFE; JOSEPHINE GETTLIFFE-GRANT; MAXIMILIEN GETTLIFFE-GRANT AND MARTIN GETTLIFFE-GRUZELLE

Dear Mr. Oppal:

Given your previous experience as a Judge of the Supreme Court of British Columbia, a Justice of the Court of Appeal of British Columbia, and a Director of Family Services of Vancouver, we confess our confusion in your notable detachment from the Nathalie Gettliffe-Scott Grant case.

As this case involves the safety and well-being and the fundamental human rights of four young children and their mother, we are concerned that your office has not acted upon its mandate. In your letter to your constituents on your website you state:

“I will fight to make the streets of Vancouver-Fraserview safer and to strengthen our community as a whole. I have studied and practiced in the Canadian legal system for many years and am confident that together we will create a safer community for our children.
I am committed to being an advocate for you and your issues. I will be accessible and accountable to you at all times. I welcome your concerns with open arms and give you my word that I will work to find solutions and resources to address your concerns.”
With respect, we have not seen you making the least effort to appoint a legal representative for Josephine and Maximilien Gettliffe-Grant, which is their legal right according to the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms and according to UN Convention on the Rights of the Child, nor have we seen you dedicate any effort to creating a safer community for the Gettliffe-Grant children. In fact, we are convinced that if you took the time to interview the children, they would tell you that they are desperately unhappy and afraid.
“By agreeing to undertake the obligations of the Convention, national governments have committed themselves to protecting and ensuring children’s rights and they have agreed to hold themselves accountable for this commitment before the international community.
States parties to the Convention are obliged to develop and undertake all actions and policies in the light of the best interests of the child. Canada is a State Party to the Convention.” UNCRC
As members of the public who are concerned for the safety and well-being of the two minor children, Josephine and Maximilien Grant-Gettliffe and the infant child in this case, Martin Gruzelle-Gettliffe, we would appreciate it if, in your role as Attorney General, you would provide us with answers to the following questions and your intended action with regard to this File:
1. Why was Dr. Gettliffe lured to Canada under false pretences and arrested in Vancouver after the Canadian embassy in Paris had informed her that there weren’t any outstanding charges against her and that it was safe to travel to Canada?
2. Why were Josephine and Maximilien Gettliffe-Grant lured onto a plane in France by Rev/Dr. Lucien Larre in July after their pregnant mother had been incarcerated in Canada?
3. Why did the Attorney General and the Crown Council not bother to investigate Lucien Larre to understand that in 1992 this man was arrested, charged and convicted of two counts of assaulting a minor; that he was also charged with 9 other counts, including 1 for sexual abuse?
4. Why has the father of these children, Scott Grant, allowed Lucien Larre unlimited access to both his young children since 2003 or before?
5. Why has your office not appointed an independent legal representative for the children?
6. How are we, the people of Canada, supposed to have any trust in the justice system when David Frost, a pedophile in Ontario, was released on bail in August 2006, and yet Dr. Gettliffe, a pregnant mother who claims to have acted to protect her children, was denied bail by the Supreme Court of British Columbia at the same time?
7. Why was Dr. Gettliffe forced to give birth to her son, Martin, while imprisoned?
8. Why has the low birth-weight of baby Martin been kept from the public knowledge?
9. Why has the Canadian Press not published the true facts about Dr. Gettliffe’s journey to Canada: that she came to finalize a mediation agreement that had been sent to her by Scott Grant through the Canadian Embassy in Paris?
10. Why has the Ambassador to Canada in Paris not informed the Canadian public of these facts instead of misleading the public and causing them to believe that Dr.Gettliffe only came to Canada to support her thesis?
11. Why, on the very day that B.C. Crown Council publically announced that Dr.Gettliffe would plead guilty, did the local media publish Front Page news of you speaking to women about domestic violence in Vancouver?
12 Why was Scott Grant’s speech from a podium broadcast to the public and yet, the mother’s television interview was not relayed to the Canadian public?
13. Is Dr. Nathalie Gettliffe a political prisoner in Canada?

14. Why have the children not been allowed to express their views, as is guaranteed in the UN Convention on the Rights of the Child?
15. Has your office determined whether it is true that the children are in distress and not doing well at school?
16. Is your office aware that the children are becoming depressed because they are not allowed reasonable access with their mother and that they do not have the freedom to express their own views or needs?
18. Has your office determined whether Dr.Gettliffe pleaded guilty under duress?
19. Has your office investigated the reason for the involvement of Lucien Larre in this matter? (Re:Article 36 of the UN Convention on the Rights of the Child)
20. The Attorney General of B.C. provided funding for the accused in the Air India trial. Why then will the Attorney General not provide funding for the legal representation of Dr. Gettliffe and her children?
21. We respectfully remind the Office of the Attorney General of its fiduciary duty to the minor children according to the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms and the UN Convention on the Rights of the Child, as they pertain to Josephine and Maximilien Grant-Gettliffe and to the infant Martin Gruzelle-Gettliffe who remains in prison with his mother, Nathalie Gettliffe.

We look forward to your response,


Canada Children First
B.C. Chapter
Vancouver, British Columbia
Canada

PRESS RELEASE: THE TRUTH ABOUT THE NATHALIE GETTLIFFE-SCOTT GRANT CASE - BRITISH COLUMBIA, CANADA




PARIS, FRANCE:
FOR THE ATTENTION OF MONSIEUR CLAUDE LAVERDURE, CANADIAN AMBASSADOR IN FRANCE


In the matter Nathalie Gettliffe, an OPEN LETTER has just been sent to the Canadian Ambassador in Paris.
The author is the same person who requested the intervention of the High Commission on Human Rights in Geneva.

The Federal Government of Canada has only a few days to explain the subject of arbitrary arrest and detention.

Mister Claude Laverdure has previously intervened in person with the media , which is why it is now necessary for him to explain his silence on the role of his embassy in the sending of the document to Nathalie Gettliffe which served towards her entrapment.

A provisional agreement of international mediation had been composed in January 2006 by a Canadian mediator, employed by the Attorney General of British Colombia. In March and April, the parents of Maximilien and Joséphine maintained contact, with the ex-husband signing what appeared to be a perfectly credible document.

He acknowledged, without any constraint, that the custody of their children should be with their mother in France. He also committed to not pursuing the matter. All that remained was to set up the dates of vacation time that the children would spend with him in Canada.

He sent this document to his former spouse, at the end of March 2006, not directly, but through the Canadian Embassy in Paris. The Embassy ascertained the authenticity of the document and confirmed to Nathalie Gettliffe that she could confidently fly to Canada in April.

Nathalie had already requested a Canadian passport from the Embassy in March 2006 for this voyage. She also verified with the Supreme Court of British Columbia that there wasn't anything outstanding against her.

Why then, has Mister Claude Laverdure concealed these facts?

Despite the official "information" in France and in Canada,
it is contrary to the fact that this Anglo-French teacher of linguistics came to Canada only to support her thesis.


She did not come to Canada without announcing it, as her former spouse well knew, and she did not taunt authorities. Her first goal was to finalize, as she believed, the agreement between the parents. At the same time, she counted on supporting her thesis which would have saved her having to support it in France.

The affirmations of the ex-husband regarding a failure of the mediation in 2005, are in total contrast to the existing documents.
How it is that this man is at liberty to dress up the real facts, without an official intervention, when the mediation unfolded itself under the watchful eye of the judicial authorities of the two countries, and when he himself signed this same document?


The open letter also informs the Ambassador of the consequence of the repeated deprivations of inflicted sleep on Doctor Nathalie Gettliffe.

In fact, a jury panel from the university of British Colombia attended in prison so that Nathalie could defend her thesis.

The UBC panel was dazzled by her vivacity of spirit, despite several months of detention.
However, since the past few days, she is does not appear to be herself.
In effect, since the birth of baby Martin, she has been subjugated to a very particular treatment, especially for a young new mother: hourly, every night, she is awakened by the guards.
The result of more than a month of this form of sleep deprivation has not only deprived her of the benefit of "innocent until proven guilty", but it has caused her to plead guilty under duress.

The matter is applicable to the United Nations,concerning the working group on arbitary detention, torture and cruel and degrading treatment, in that France has violated the fundamental rights of the children and their mother, through its judicial decisions. It does not help matters that Canada now, in turn, adds fuel to the fire.

It is noteable that the High Commissioner of Human Rights is the Canadian, Louise Arbour, previously Chief Prosecutor for the International Criminal Tribunal.

As the Ambassador well knows, while a Judge of the Supreme Court of Canada in 1996, this competent and determined person had established a report stigmatizing the violations of the rights of women prisoners in Canada. She would therefore appreciate the "progress" since then accomplished..

For more precise information, please address yourself to:
Louis Ripault(author of the Memorandum to the Office of the Commissioner for Human Rights), so that all investigative journalists wanting to examine the facts may do so in this major case of French-Canadian judicial abuse concerning domestic violence which has been amplified by a sectarian environment.
louis.ripault@tiscali.fr

Open Letter to B.C. Attorney General Wally Oppal Concerning Nathalie Gettliffe




MR. WALLY OPPAL
Attorney General of B.C.
Room 232Parliament BuildingsVictoria, BCV8V 1X4
Phone: 250 387-1866
Fax: 250 387-6411

RE: NATHALIE GETTLIFFE; JOSEPHINE GETTLIFFE-GRANT; MAXIMILIEN GETTLIFFE-GRANT AND MARTIN GETTLIFFE-GRUZELLE

Dear Mr. Oppal:

Given your previous experience as a Judge of the Supreme Court of British Columbia, a Justice of the Court of Appeal of British Columbia, and a Director of Family Services of Vancouver, we confess our confusion in your notable detachment from the Nathalie Gettliffe-Scott Grant case.

As this case involves the safety and well-being and the fundamental human rights of four young children and their mother, we are concerned that your office has not acted upon its mandate. In your letter to your constituents on your website you state:

“I will fight to make the streets of Vancouver-Fraserview safer and to strengthen our community as a whole. I have studied and practiced in the Canadian legal system for many years and am confident that together we will create a safer community for our children.
I am committed to being an advocate for you and your issues. I will be accessible and accountable to you at all times. I welcome your concerns with open arms and give you my word that I will work to find solutions and resources to address your concerns.”

With respect, we have not seen you making the least effort to appoint a legal representative for Josephine and Maximilien Gettliffe-Grant, which is their legal right according to the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms and according to UN Convention on the Rights of the Child, nor have we seen you dedicate any effort to creating a safer community for the Gettliffe-Grant children.

In fact, we are convinced that if you took the time to interview the children, they would tell you that they are desperately unhappy and afraid.

“By agreeing to undertake the obligations of the Convention, national governments have committed themselves to protecting and ensuring children’s rights and they have agreed to hold themselves accountable for this commitment before the international community.
States parties to the Convention are obliged to develop and undertake all actions and policies in the light of the best interests of the child. Canada is a State Party to the Convention.” UNCRC


As members of the public who are concerned for the safety and well-being of the two minor children, Josephine and Maximilien Grant-Gettliffe and the infant child in this case, Martin Gruzelle-Gettliffe, we would appreciate it if, in your role as Attorney General, you would provide us with answers to the following questions and your intended action with regard to this File:

1. Why was Dr. Gettliffe lured to Canada under false pretences and arrested in Vancouver after the Canadian embassy in Paris had informed her that there weren’t any outstanding charges against her and that it was safe to travel to Canada?

2. Why were Josephine and Maximilien Gettliffe-Grant lured onto a plane in France by Rev/Dr. Lucien Larre in July after their pregnant mother had been incarcerated in Canada?

3. Why did the Attorney General and the Crown Council not bother to investigate Lucien Larre to understand that in 1992 this man was arrested, charged and convicted of two counts of assaulting a minor; that he was also charged with 9 other counts, including 1 for sexual abuse?

4. Why has the father of these children, Scott Grant, allowed Lucien Larre unlimited access to both his young children since 2003 or before?

5. Why has your office not appointed an independent legal representative for the children?

6. How are we, the people of Canada, supposed to have any trust in the justice system when David Frost, a pedophile in Ontario, was released on bail in August 2006, and yet Dr. Gettliffe, a pregnant mother who claims to have acted to protect her children, was denied bail by the Supreme Court of British Columbia at the same time?

7. Why was Dr. Gettliffe forced to give birth to her son, Martin, while imprisoned?

8. Why has the low birth-weight of baby Martin been kept from the public knowledge?

9. Why has the Canadian Press not published the true facts about Dr. Gettliffe’s journey to Canada: that she came to finalize a mediation agreement that had been sent to her by Scott Grant through the Canadian Embassy in Paris?

10. Why has the Ambassador to Canada in Paris not informed the Canadian public of these facts instead of misleading the public and causing them to believe that Dr.Gettliffe only came to Canada to support her thesis?

11. Why, on the very day that B.C. Crown Council publically announced that Dr.Gettliffe would plead guilty, did the local media publish Front Page news of you speaking to women about domestic violence in Vancouver?

12 Why was Scott Grant’s speech from a podium broadcast to the public and yet, the mother’s television interview was not relayed to the Canadian public?

13. Is Dr. Nathalie Gettliffe a political prisoner in Canada?

14. Why have the children not been allowed to express their views, as is guaranteed in the UN Convention on the Rights of the Child?

15. Has your office determined whether it is true that the children are in distress and not doing well at school?

16. Is your office aware that the children are becoming depressed because they are not allowed reasonable access with their mother and that they do not have the freedom to express their own views or needs?

18. Has your office determined whether Dr.Gettliffe pleaded guilty under duress?

19. Has your office investigated the reason for the involvement of Lucien Larre in this matter? (Re:Article 36 of the UN Convention on the Rights of the Child)

20. The Attorney General of B.C. provided funding for the accused in the Air India trial. Why then will the Attorney General not provide funding for the legal representation of Dr. Gettliffe and her children?

21. We respectfully remind the Office of the Attorney General of its fiduciary duty to the minor children according to the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms and the UN Convention on the Rights of the Child, as they pertain to Josephine and Maximilien Grant-Gettliffe and to the infant Martin Gruzelle-Gettliffe who remains in prison with his mother, Nathalie Gettliffe.

We look forward to your response,


Canada Children First
B.C. Chapter
Vancouver, British Columbia
Canada

Thursday, November 09, 2006

Update on Nathalie Gettliffe's Appearance in the Supreme Court of British Columbia



9 novembre 2006

Bonjour à tous,

What is important to note is that the Canadian media, which is not an independent press, is very bias regarding Nathalie. They continue trying to make Nathalie look like she is a bad person.

I was in the court this morning and heard the Crown’s argument.

I also heard the argument of Fowler and I say that Fowler at that moment made the case that it is OK to be different, and a person cannot be classified as crazy because one wants to run for the leadership of a country. –If that would be the case, all politicians should be classified crazy and locked up---

In truth Nathalie made a reasonable declaration by trying to protect her children and making serious complaints about the Judiciary system and the jail in Canada, which are not fit for any human being, let alone a pregnant woman.

Nathalie was not of free mind when she pleaded guilty last Friday.

Nathalie should now put a Motion before the Court to quash her guilty plea.

We believe that whether it is her lawyers, or others who convinced her she would be free from prison if she pleaded guilty, it is now time for her to fire all of her lawyers and put a motion before the court and ask the court for an order to quash and reverse the guilty plea.

It is 7 months past the time that her lawyers should have also put before the court the habeas corpus writ under the Charter s. 10. (Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms)

The Govt. is making Nathalie a political prisoner.

From my point of view and others who were with me in Court today: Gail Dickson’s argument was for the divorce court and not for the criminal court.

This is to say that the Crown is trying to obtain an order from the court for a psychiatrist assessment to save Scott Grant from paying for it at divorce trial from his own pockets.

Make no mistake, Nathalie has and is being tortured by people who rather let pedophiles walk the streets of Vancouver and lock up mothers who try to look after their children.

I am ashamed of being a Canadian today but I am more sad for Nathalie’s 4 children.

I call on every citizen of Canada and France to come to the rescue of Nathalie, a mother of 4 children, who only wants to protect her children.

We will forward any material we are trying to put together and pass it along to all other AG’s of Canada and also to the press in France.

T.

Priorité : faire sortir Nathalie Gettliffe des geôles canadiennes



Depuis le 11 avril dernier, Nathalie Gettliffe, professeure d’anglais à l’Université de Lyon II, est donc retenue en prison au Canada. Enceinte, elle n’a pas cédé.

Ségolène Royal, qui a remarqué que Zinédine Zidane avait le sens du combat pour défendre ses valeurs, pourrait se tourner vers le sort autrement plus dramatique de Nathalie Gettliffe...

Question valeurs, la jeune femme se pose là aussi. Elle veut aussi faire connaître la condition féminine dans ce genre de situation et, pour plus se faire entendre, elle aurait reçu le soutien de Pierre Giraud, maire de Satillieu (Ardèche) pour sa candidature aux présidentielles de 2007.

Après plusieurs médiations, conduites pour certaines sous l’égide de la MAMIF, Nathalie Gettliffe s’était rendue au Canada, conjuguant la possibilité de présenter un mémoire de fin d’études et de conclure un accord avec son ex-mari concernant leurs enfants. Certes, de la part de N. Gettliffe, cette ambition s’est révélée présompteuse. La police canadienne prévenue de son arrivée l’a arrêtée une première fois. Faute de mandat, Nathalie Gettliffe avait été relâchée. Le lendemain, un mandat de circonstance était émis dans un environnement judiciaire familiale proche de Scott Grant. Nathalie Gettliffe était emprisonnée comme une grande criminelle, sommée de faire revenir ses enfants au Canada. Elle risque dix ans de prison...

Des médiations dans un climat de suspicion
Les médiations conduites n’ont en fait pas permis de consolider un accord quelconque, ne fût-ce qu’un accord sur les désaccords. Il est clair que les propos tenus par des intervenants - ou prétendus tels, notamment sur des forums Internet - ont alimenté le constat d’incompétence plus que de qualité et de rigueur.

Cette affaire dramatique, où l’on voit des parents s’entredéchirer, les systèmes judiciaires sanctionner le sacrifice d’une mère, des amateurs de la médiation se déresponsabiliser en accusant cette mère de tous les maux et, entre autres, de mauvaise volonté, ne va-t-elle pas enfin trouver une issue ?

Comment désormais avoir confiance dans la MAMIF et ses acteurs, d’autant que l’intitulé même de cette "Mission d’aide à la médiation internationale pour les familles", placée sous l’égide du ministère de la Justice, qualifie le comportement de l’une des parties d’enlèvement d’enfant ? C’est déjà un parti pris. Parti pris jugeant. Parti pris conditionné par une perception juridique de la démarche.

Les affaires de la médiation familiale ne sont pas négociables
Comment avoir confiance dans une démarche qui privilégie une méthodologie fondée sur les enjeux et les intérêts, la négociation, alors que nous sommes ici dans un contexte qui doit permettre aux parties de trouver des repères de régulation relationnelle, avant toute recherche de solution, pour justement créer le climat favorable à la construction d’un accord durable ? Manifestement, le ministère de la Justice n’est pas aidé dans ce domaine qu’il souhaite développer.

Lorsque la médiation est conduite avec plus de prétention que de compétence, elle peut devenir, comme ici, dans cette affaire, un instrument de la Justice dure.
Il conviendrait que les médiateurs qui exposent des personnes à leurs prestations, popularisant ainsi l’échec de la médiation familiale dénoncée dans un rapport tout aussi peu éclairé, se réfèrent à l’idée qu’en matière familiale, la priorité n’est pas à la négociation ou à la conciliation, mais aux conditions spécifiques de la communication entre les parties.

Les "médiateurs" ne devraient-ils pas être appelés en cause ?
Si le médiateur est un professionnel, alors il doit poser le cadre de son intervention, définir les modalités de son déroulement, assumer la responsabilité de sa prestation. Ce n’est pas aux parties de dire ce qu’elles veulent comme modalités de fonctionnement, mais au médiateur de maîtriser son processus. Ainsi, si le médiateur se réfère au droit interne, lequel disposerait qu’il conviendrait d’engager immédiatement des rencontres entre les parties, il est déjà hors médiation et ne peut que revendiquer être un "pourparleur", pas un médiateur. En médiation, il ne s’agit que d’amateurisme, ou tout au plus de dilletantisme.

Un médiateur ne saurait s’appuyer sur le droit pour intervenir.
Quand tous les médiateurs auront compris que leur seul parti pris ne peut être que celui de la médiation, alors nous aurons répandu des médiations de qualité, efficaces, et de leur côté les juristes pourront exercer, sans qu’il y ait ces confusions qui débouchent sur ce genre de situation.
Quand les médiateurs auront compris que la bonne volonté, la psychologie et le droit ne sont pas leurs outils d’intervention, alors ils pourront développer une discipline qui inspirera confiance aux personnes confrontées à des différends qui leurs paraissent inextricables.

Dans cette affaire, il serait opportun que les médiateurs intervenus puissent justifier non seulement de leur mandatement, de leurs compétences, mais également de leur indépendance, de leur neutralité, et de la tenue de leur processus. Ont-ils mis en oeuvre tous les moyens professionnels pour permettre aux parents de se sortir de leurs ornières conflictuelles ?

Priorité : faire sortir Nathalie Gettliffe des geôles canadiennes
Maintenant, deux choses, compte tenu des soupçons sectaires qui font plus que planer sur cette affaire : ne conviendrait-il pas que le Canada accepte que Nathalie Gettliffe soit jugée en France, et, deuxième chose, qu’une médiation plus sérieuse soit conduite pour que cette famille décomposée trouve le chemin qui se trouve tracé dans le roman d’Erik Orsenna, La grammaire est une chanson douce ?
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A Canadian Citizen is Outraged by the False Reports from the Canadian Media about Nathalie Gettliffe



Each and every one of them, who in my humble opinion deserve to be together as a family enjoying the comfort of their mother.
I suspected early on that Nathalie had been tricked, the smug look on Scott's face in the news clips gave me chills.
It took hours upon hours of searching the internet looking for the real story behind the incarceration of Nathalie and upon finding it, I just felt I needed to thank you for your blog.

Some of the most outrageous things I read in your blog, like what the priest told the children to get them to go with him, I haven't seen anywhere else.

I hope thousands of other Canadians just like me have also gone searching for the truth. Nathalie and Josephine need to know that in British Columbia most children over the age of 13 can choose their own living arrangments. I would hope that Richmond Provincial Court will see fit to allow Josephine the same rights other children her age when she turns 13.
Name withheld, Canada

Chaque et chaque un d'eux, qui dans mon opinion humble mérite pour être ensemble comme une famille appréciant le confort de leur mère. J'ai soupçonné tôt sur que Nathalie avait été trompé, le regard suffisant sur la visage de Scott dans les trombones de nouvelles a donné me refroidit.
Il a pris des heures sur les heures de chercher l'internet cherche la vraie histoire derrière l'incarcération de Nathalie et sur la conclusion il, je me suis senti juste que j'ai eu besoin d'à merci pour votre blog.
Certaines des choses les plus indignes je lis votre blog, comme ce que le prêtre a dit que les enfants les obtiennent pour aller avec lui, je n'ai vu nullepart d'autre. J'espère des milliers d'autres Canadiens juste comme sont allés me chercher aussi la vérité.
Le besoin de Nathalie et Josephine de savoir que dans Colombie Britannique la plupart des enfants par-dessus l'âge de 13 peut choisir leur propre arrangments vivant. J'espérerais que Richmond le Tribunal Provincial voie que la crise permet les droits pareils à Josephine autres enfants son âge quand elle tourne 13.
Le nom a retenu, Canada

Que l'Ambassadeur Laverdure cache-t-il du public ?




Sujet: LETTRE OUVERTE A MONSIEUR L'AMBASSADEUR
Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2006 16:46:37 +0100
De: Louis Ripault
Pour: anne.turcotte@international.gc.ca

A l'attention de Madame Anne Turcotte :
Madame, Suite à mon appel téléphonique, veuillez trouver ci-après le texte de la lettre envoyée ce jour à Monsieur l'Ambassadeur par voie postale.Comme je le mentionne in fine, c'est une "lettre ouverte", dont j'envoie également ce jour par courriel le texte aux médias.
Sentiments distingués.
Louis Ripault

Louis RIPAULT
e-mail: louis.ripault@tiscali.fr
Montsûrs, le 09 novembre 2006

Monsieur Claude Laverdure
Ambassade du Canada
35, avenue Montaigne
75008 PARIS
France

Affaire Nathalie Gettliffe

Monsieur l’Ambassadeur,

Dans l’affaire en référence, fin juillet 2006 j’ai attiré l’attention du Haut Commissariat aux Droits de l’Homme à Genève, par un mémorandum explicitant le caractère arbitraire des arrestation(s) et détention(s) de cette franco-canadienne.
Comme vous devez le savoir, le Gouvernement fédéral du Canada n’a plus que quelques jours pour répondre aux services de l’ONU dirigés par Madame Louise Arbour…

Vos récentes interventions dans la presse rendent nécessaire d’éclairer des évènements impliquant votre ambassade.
Curieusement, vous omettez d’en faire état dans vos déclarations aux médias et lors de vos appels téléphoniques à des élus français…

Notamment, je fais ici référence à l’accord provisoire de médiation internationale que votre ambassade a fait parvenir à Nathalie Gettliffe, fin mars 2006.
Cet accord avait été rédigé, en anglais, en janvier 2006, par Pamela Jeffrey, médiatrice employée de l’Attorney Général de Colombie Britannique.


Le document envoyé à Nathalie Gettliffe était signé par Scott Grant, qui y reconnaissait que la garde des enfants devait être avec leur mère en France (premier alinéa de la page 3…).


La mairie de Satillieu, où, côté français, les sessions de médiation se faisaient par téléconférence, a enregistré que la dernière de ces réunions « officielles », en présence de la médiatrice française, datait du 27 février 2006.
L’envoi du document signé ayant été fait ensuite, qui plus est par vos services, cela accréditait, aux yeux de Nathalie Gettliffe, la confirmation de l’accord de Scott Grant, pour le bien des enfants Maximilien et Joséphine.
L’envoi, non pas en direct mais par une voie officielle, venait donc à l’appui des conversations et courriels entre les ex-conjoints, postérieurs à la dernière téléconférence en présence des médiatrices.


L’ensemble prouve que Scott Grant, à cette date, fin mars 2006, acquiesçait à la garde des enfants par la mère en France et que sont parfaitement contraires aux faits ses déclarations, jamais démenties officiellement, que la médiation internationale aurait échoué en 2005.

Je détiens aussi une attestation du maire de Satillieu, quant à sa certification de photographies de Nathalie Gettliffe, en vue de l’obtention en mars 2006 d’un passeport canadien par vos services.

J’ai aussi recueilli les témoignages d’universitaires de Lyon et de Grenoble, sur son annulation des dispositions antérieurement prises pour soutenir sa thèse depuis la France.

Elle a changé de modalité à partir du moment où, au vu des courriels de la médiatrice canadienne (dont j’ai copie…), elle se croyait, a-t-elle déclaré à ses collègues, libre d’aller au Canada sans y être inquiétée, croyant en la « bonne foi » de son ex-conjoint.
Elle a cru ensuite celle-ci confirmée, par le fait que votre ambassade s’impliquait dans la transmission de ce document, comportant aussi l’engagement signé par l’ex-mari de ne pas la poursuivre.


Les pièces établissent donc que Nathalie Gettliffe ne venait pas au Canada « en douce », en narguant les autorités, suite à une prétendue obligation de se déplacer en personne pour une soutenance universitaire.

S’il s’était agi seulement de valider sa thèse, il est attesté qu’elle aurait procédé autrement.
Il est de plus certain que sa venue à Vancouver, prévue dans un courriel de la médiatrice canadienne aux deux parents, ne pouvait être ignorée ni de l’ex-conjoint, ni d’ailleurs des autorités canadiennes, tant judiciaires que consulaires.

Son but premier était bien de finaliser l’accord de médiation transmis par vos services.
Par la même occasion, cette enseignante avait organisé avec UBC la soutenance sur place de sa thèse, notamment pour éviter les frais d’une vidéoconférence depuis l’Ecole Normale Supérieure de Lyon…

Il apparaît donc, Monsieur l’Ambassadeur, que vous couvrez, par votre silence quant à la transmission de ce document par votre ambassade, les agissements ultérieurs de membres de la Couronne, intimes de l’ex-mari, notamment Mike Luchenko et Heather Holt.

Ces personnes ont utilisé leurs fonctions officielles pour poursuivre, suivant des modalités plus que curieuses, une mère venant au Canada dans le cadre d’une médiation internationale, pourtant placée sous l’égide des services officiels des deux pays.
Cette affaire sonne le glas de la notion de médiation familiale, tant vantée pourtant au Canada.
Par ailleurs, selon vous Nathalie Gettliffe bénéficierait à Alouette d’un traitement bien adapté.
Certes l’établissement a été rénové, mais il n’en reste pas moins, à jamais dans l’histoire, un « lieu de séjour » dont nombre de pensionnaires nippons ne revinrent pas vivants…
De plus, le Pacte international relatif aux droits civiques et politiques ne spécifie-t-il pas, en son article 10, que ne doivent pas être mis ensemble des prévenus et des condamnés ?
Surtout, dans quel but réveille-t-on cette jeune accouchée, « présumée innocente », toutes les heures de la nuit, depuis le 28 septembre, en lui braquant une lampe torche dans les yeux ?


Vous ne serez pas étonné que ma plainte à l’ONU, pour arrestation(s) et détention(s) arbitraires, puisse s’étoffer maintenant d’une plainte pour des actes de privation de sommeil. On en voit bien les effets nocifs sur la personne du Docteur Nathalie Gettliffe, qui avait ébloui son jury de thèse cet été.

Depuis, ces agissements pernicieux l’ont mise dans un tel état qu’elle a été contrainte à plaider coupable, alors que ce dont on l’accuse nécessite une intentionnalité qui n’était pas la sienne.

A Genève, le dossier vient d’être transmis au bureau de Monsieur Manfred Nowak, Rapporteur spécial sur la torture et autres peines ou traitements cruels inhumains ou dégradants.
L’éventuelle validation de ma qualification des faits, par la Canadienne qui fut Procureur Général du Tribunal Pénal International, ne manquerait pas d’attirer l’attention du monde entier sur un « dysfonctionnement » des institutions judiciaires et pénitentiaires dont vous vantez tant la qualité.


Dans cette affaire, la France encourt une sanction par la Cour Européenne des Droits de l’Homme.
Les décisions judiciaires, dont vous vous prévalez, résultent d’une accumulation de violations des droits de la personne. Entre autres, il n’y a pas eu d’audition des enfants, malgré leurs demandes, et n’ont pas été appliquées, dans leur intérêt, les clauses de refus de retour, prévues par la Convention de La Haye, en particulier à l’alinéa 2 de l’article 13.
Certes, cette sanction de la France va prendre un certain délai.
Mais est-ce une raison pour que, dans l’intervalle, le Canada fasse
« encore mieux dans le pire » ?
Le résultat des traitements subis par Nathalie Gettliffe, présumée innocente ainsi contrainte à plaider coupable, m’amène à ne pas attendre votre réponse quant au rôle joué par votre ambassade.

C‘est pourquoi je communique ce jour même aux médias copie de cette LETTRE OUVERTE.
Veuillez être assuré, Monsieur l’Ambassadeur, de ma détermination à faire connaître les faits réels.

Louis Ripault