I received a copy today of an order dated March 8, 2007 emanating from Judge Garson forbidding Nathalie Gettliffe, French citizen, from speaking French to her children. Likewise she forbids the Gettliffe children from speaking French to their mother.
I am asking all concerned Canadians to provide me with any other documented proof on similar conduct of Justice Garson.
Further, based on reports received on Justice Holmes, please send this site any information you may have on similar behaviour from this judge.
United, ordinary citizens can get to the bottom of what is going on in the BC courts with regards to custody decisions.
I have also been advised that certain BC residents, not sure if they are Canadian citizens, have had their children removed from them subsequent to divorce decisions for no apparent reason.
Your information will be treated in total confidence. Please provide enough details so that official documents can be verified with court records.
Thank you.
BRITISH COLUMBIA JUDICIAL APPOINTMENTS ANNOUNCED
OTTAWA, March 22, 2001 -- The Honourable Anne McLellan, Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada, today announced the following appointments:
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Nicole Garson, Q.C., of Vancouver is appointed a Judge of the British Columbia Supreme Court. She replaces the Mr. Justice Ken M. Lysyk who elected to become a supernumerary judge.
Madam Justice Garson received a Bachelor of Laws from the University of Saskatchewan in 1975. She was admitted to the Bar of Manitoba in 1977, and the Bar of British Columbia in 1981. Just prior to her appointment, Madam Justice Garson was a partner with the Vancouver firm of Campney & Murphy, praticing primarily in commercial and insurance litigation. She has been active with the Canadian Bar Association serving on various committees. Madam Justice Garson has been an instructor for numerous civil litigation courses through the Continuing Legal Education Society of British Columbia. She was appointed Queen's Counsel in 1999.
Heather Holmes of Vancouver is appointed a Judge of the British Columbia Supreme Court. She replaces the Mr. Justice R.T. Low who was appointed to the British Columbia Court of Appeal.
Madam Justice Holmes received a Bachelor of Laws from the University of Toronto in 1979 maintaining a position on the Dean's Honours List for all three years of study. She was admitted to the Bar of British Columbia in 1981. Madam Justice Holmes began practice with Shrum, Liddle and Hebenton (now McCarthy, Tétrault) in Vancouver later spending four years with the Criminal Law Section of the Department of Justice in Ottawa. At the time of her appointment, she was Crown Counsel with the Commercial Crime Section of the Office of the Attorney General of British Columbia conducting commercial crime prosecutions and from time to time, appeals in general criminal law areas. Throughout her career, Madam Justice Holmes has been active with various committees of the Canadian Bar Association including having served as an elected member of the Provincial Council for Vancouver County and as the Chair of the Legislation and Law Reform Committee.
Thursday, March 15, 2007
Some inconsistencies in Benoit Ferradini!
Surfing the net I came across this article....
And being a little fed up with the biased journalism, I thought I would add my comments to the story.
Nathalie Gettliffe a commis beaucoup d’erreurs/ If you read below..you will see he talks about the prejudice of a group of Canadians.... it has nothing to do with Gettliffe making mistakes...it is Ferradini's attempt at disguising reported speech, which probably had its source in the prosecutor's office.
LYON MAGhttp://www.lyonmag.com/spip.php?article9916
Janvier 2007
Journaliste français installé au Canada, Benoît Ferradini a suivi le procès de Nathalie Gettliffe pour Radio-Canada. Il explique pourquoi cette enseignante lyonnaise a été condamnée à seize mois de prison pour avoir enlevé ses enfants.
Pourquoi la justice canadienne a condamné aussi durement Nathalie Gettliffe ?
Benoît Ferradini : Parce qu’au Canada, qui est un pays très légaliste, Nathalie Gettliffe est considérée comme une criminelle. Et là-bas, une femme qui enlève ses enfants est ni plus ni moins qu’une hors-la-loi. Mais si Nathalie Gettliffe a été durement condamnée, c’est également parce qu’elle a commis beaucoup d’erreurs depuis qu’elle a été arrêtée. Des erreurs qui l’ont totalement décrédibilisée. Why would a judge convict someone on anything other than the charges laid?
Quelles erreurs elle a commises ?
Les Canadiens ont trouvé stupide et arrogant qu’après avoir enlevé ses enfants, elle revienne tranquillement au Canada en pensant échapper à toute poursuite judiciaire. That's just it! Think about it. Why would an intelligent women have come back and taken such a risk, especially after all the legal decisions had gone against her. If I had been the judge.... I would have wondered why too. Further, if I were a little astute I would have asked the question to the accused at the arraignment hearing. And then upon production of the signed British Columbia Attorney General Mediation agreement by a competent lawyer acting on behalf of the accused..... wherein the father had signed permission for the children to stay in France with the mother ..... I would have said....what then seems to be the problem? Further if the accused's lawyer would have brought to MY attention the fact that the prosecutor Luchenko, facing me, was the partner of Scott Grant's mother..... I would have dismissed the hearing..... and asked the attorney general to investigate the conduct of Luchenko. Maybe not the Attorney General of BC as they don't recognise the mediation agreements they initiate! Just ask Pamela Jeffrey!
Ensuite, ils n’ont pas compris lorsqu’elle a annoncé qu’elle voulait se présenter à l’élection présidentielle en France pour échapper à toute condamnation !
If this journalist knew anything about French politics he would be aware that ordinary citizens with no political background can run for President or for the legislatives.
And it happens!
Enfin, les Canadiens n’ont pas du tout apprécié le livre qu’elle a écrit avec son compagnon, Francis Gruzelle, et dans lequel ils racontent son histoire. Car ce livre présente le Canada comme un véritable enfer, où la justice est noyautée par une secte, où les prisons ressemblent à Guantanamo... D’ailleurs, cette campagne médiatique contre le Canada lui a fait beaucoup de tort.
I find this statement incredible for a journalist who makes his living by writing stories!
Freedom of the press exists in Canada, doesn't it?
If there were slander in the story, why wouldn't Gettliffe and her partner be brought to court?
Nathalie Gettliffe a menti ?
J’ai interviewé Nathalie Gettliffe plusieurs fois. Et au cours de ces entretiens, j’ai relevé certaines incohérences dans son témoignage. Exemple : une fois, elle m’a affirmé que son ex-mari Scott Grant couchait avec sa fille ! Alors qu’elle ne l’avait jamais dit aux policiers ! Et quand je lui ai demandé des précisions, elle n’a pas été claire. D’ailleurs, elle n’a jamais accusé clairement son mari d’inceste. Mais s’est contentée plutôt de faire des sous-entendus...
Please read the court reports..... you can find them online.... the judge herself mentions the father sleeping with the daughter...as well she mentions the fascination that the child apparently had for her father's genitalia. Frankly, I was surprised that the judge included this in her decision but she did.
D’autres incohérences ?
En fait, c’est surtout son compagnon français Gruzelle qui a joué un rôle assez trouble. Notamment quand il a déclaré aux journalistes que Scott Grant battait ses enfants depuis qu’il en avait obtenu la garde au Canada. Il affirme même avoir un témoin ! Du coup, j’ai demandé des explications à Nathalie Gettliffe sur ces accusations. Et elle m’a avoué qu’elle n’était pas au courant de cette affaire !
Yes unfortunate if Gruzelle said this.... but in fact Grant used physical force to restrain Josephine on several occasions..... further, he is quite insensitive to the childrens' suffering as evidenced by testimony.
Mais son mari était tout de même membre d’une secte !
C’est vrai que Scott Grant est membre de l’Eglise internationale du Christ. Et Nathalie Gettliffe dit la vérité à propos du contrôle de l’emploi du temps des adeptes, de leur vie familiale, de la présence imposée d’un guide spirituel, de l’éloignement des enfants pour que les parents se consacrent à l’étude de la Bible... Mais il faut également souligner que depuis 2003 cette secte a beaucoup évolué : ses dirigeants ont changé, et il paraît qu’il y a moins de recrutements agressifs. D’ailleurs, il y a de moins en moins de plaintes contre elle. Ce qui a permis d’ailleurs à Scott Grant de dire qu’elle n’était pas dangereuse pour ses enfants.
This is hilarious.... a sect does not become less of a sect....further, it is well known that even so-called respectable churches such as vineyard (airport Toronto) have come under heavy criticism for encouragement and tolerance of demonic manifestations.
Having spent most of my life now, attempting as best as I can to follow Christ's example by helping others, I think I can say that a Christian ....is someone who loves his fellow human being and does not use deceit in order to obtain selfish gain. Vengeance has no place in the life of a Christian.
And being a little fed up with the biased journalism, I thought I would add my comments to the story.
Nathalie Gettliffe a commis beaucoup d’erreurs/ If you read below..you will see he talks about the prejudice of a group of Canadians.... it has nothing to do with Gettliffe making mistakes...it is Ferradini's attempt at disguising reported speech, which probably had its source in the prosecutor's office.
LYON MAGhttp://www.lyonmag.com/spip.php?article9916
Janvier 2007
Journaliste français installé au Canada, Benoît Ferradini a suivi le procès de Nathalie Gettliffe pour Radio-Canada. Il explique pourquoi cette enseignante lyonnaise a été condamnée à seize mois de prison pour avoir enlevé ses enfants.
Pourquoi la justice canadienne a condamné aussi durement Nathalie Gettliffe ?
Benoît Ferradini : Parce qu’au Canada, qui est un pays très légaliste, Nathalie Gettliffe est considérée comme une criminelle. Et là-bas, une femme qui enlève ses enfants est ni plus ni moins qu’une hors-la-loi. Mais si Nathalie Gettliffe a été durement condamnée, c’est également parce qu’elle a commis beaucoup d’erreurs depuis qu’elle a été arrêtée. Des erreurs qui l’ont totalement décrédibilisée. Why would a judge convict someone on anything other than the charges laid?
Quelles erreurs elle a commises ?
Les Canadiens ont trouvé stupide et arrogant qu’après avoir enlevé ses enfants, elle revienne tranquillement au Canada en pensant échapper à toute poursuite judiciaire. That's just it! Think about it. Why would an intelligent women have come back and taken such a risk, especially after all the legal decisions had gone against her. If I had been the judge.... I would have wondered why too. Further, if I were a little astute I would have asked the question to the accused at the arraignment hearing. And then upon production of the signed British Columbia Attorney General Mediation agreement by a competent lawyer acting on behalf of the accused..... wherein the father had signed permission for the children to stay in France with the mother ..... I would have said....what then seems to be the problem? Further if the accused's lawyer would have brought to MY attention the fact that the prosecutor Luchenko, facing me, was the partner of Scott Grant's mother..... I would have dismissed the hearing..... and asked the attorney general to investigate the conduct of Luchenko. Maybe not the Attorney General of BC as they don't recognise the mediation agreements they initiate! Just ask Pamela Jeffrey!
Ensuite, ils n’ont pas compris lorsqu’elle a annoncé qu’elle voulait se présenter à l’élection présidentielle en France pour échapper à toute condamnation !
If this journalist knew anything about French politics he would be aware that ordinary citizens with no political background can run for President or for the legislatives.
And it happens!
Enfin, les Canadiens n’ont pas du tout apprécié le livre qu’elle a écrit avec son compagnon, Francis Gruzelle, et dans lequel ils racontent son histoire. Car ce livre présente le Canada comme un véritable enfer, où la justice est noyautée par une secte, où les prisons ressemblent à Guantanamo... D’ailleurs, cette campagne médiatique contre le Canada lui a fait beaucoup de tort.
I find this statement incredible for a journalist who makes his living by writing stories!
Freedom of the press exists in Canada, doesn't it?
If there were slander in the story, why wouldn't Gettliffe and her partner be brought to court?
Nathalie Gettliffe a menti ?
J’ai interviewé Nathalie Gettliffe plusieurs fois. Et au cours de ces entretiens, j’ai relevé certaines incohérences dans son témoignage. Exemple : une fois, elle m’a affirmé que son ex-mari Scott Grant couchait avec sa fille ! Alors qu’elle ne l’avait jamais dit aux policiers ! Et quand je lui ai demandé des précisions, elle n’a pas été claire. D’ailleurs, elle n’a jamais accusé clairement son mari d’inceste. Mais s’est contentée plutôt de faire des sous-entendus...
Please read the court reports..... you can find them online.... the judge herself mentions the father sleeping with the daughter...as well she mentions the fascination that the child apparently had for her father's genitalia. Frankly, I was surprised that the judge included this in her decision but she did.
D’autres incohérences ?
En fait, c’est surtout son compagnon français Gruzelle qui a joué un rôle assez trouble. Notamment quand il a déclaré aux journalistes que Scott Grant battait ses enfants depuis qu’il en avait obtenu la garde au Canada. Il affirme même avoir un témoin ! Du coup, j’ai demandé des explications à Nathalie Gettliffe sur ces accusations. Et elle m’a avoué qu’elle n’était pas au courant de cette affaire !
Yes unfortunate if Gruzelle said this.... but in fact Grant used physical force to restrain Josephine on several occasions..... further, he is quite insensitive to the childrens' suffering as evidenced by testimony.
Mais son mari était tout de même membre d’une secte !
C’est vrai que Scott Grant est membre de l’Eglise internationale du Christ. Et Nathalie Gettliffe dit la vérité à propos du contrôle de l’emploi du temps des adeptes, de leur vie familiale, de la présence imposée d’un guide spirituel, de l’éloignement des enfants pour que les parents se consacrent à l’étude de la Bible... Mais il faut également souligner que depuis 2003 cette secte a beaucoup évolué : ses dirigeants ont changé, et il paraît qu’il y a moins de recrutements agressifs. D’ailleurs, il y a de moins en moins de plaintes contre elle. Ce qui a permis d’ailleurs à Scott Grant de dire qu’elle n’était pas dangereuse pour ses enfants.
This is hilarious.... a sect does not become less of a sect....further, it is well known that even so-called respectable churches such as vineyard (airport Toronto) have come under heavy criticism for encouragement and tolerance of demonic manifestations.
Having spent most of my life now, attempting as best as I can to follow Christ's example by helping others, I think I can say that a Christian ....is someone who loves his fellow human being and does not use deceit in order to obtain selfish gain. Vengeance has no place in the life of a Christian.
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