Nathalie Gettliffe and her Children - Pawns in the International Chess Game Being Played With Children

Happy New Year...or is it?

Maybe for you and your family - but what about Josephine and Maximilien Gettliffe-Grant, two young children forced to live with their father in Vancouver, after their mother was spirited back to France just before Christmas to serve out the rest of her sentence?

How do you think these children are feeling since the Supreme Court of British Columbia deported their mother and confined them to live in a country that has become a strange and terrifying place?

Jo and Max lived in France for five years with their mother until July 2006, when they were lured onto an aeroplane by one Father/Dr. Lucien Larre, currently under investigation by the College of Psychologists of British Columbia.

They were promised that their mother would be set free from prison if they flew to Canada. She was not. Their trust was shattered yet again. And now, they are subject to Lucien Larre, who has been hired by their father, Scott Grant, as an "interpreter".

Are you getting goosebumps yet??

Lucien Larre was interviewed by the CBC's Fifth Estate several years ago on national Canadian television, along with adult survivors of Larre's attempts to strangle them, slap them and confine them to a wheelchair.

Larre's response when the CBC journalist asks him if he truly strangled any children -

"Find me a dead one..."

The arrogance of a psychopath? Or just a very powerful person with powerful connections in government and the Catholic church?

Our concerns are:

1. Lucien Larre has unlimited access to Josephine and Maximilien Gettliffe Grant. How do we know he isn't going to slap them or strangle them if they don't listen to him?

Where is the evidence that he is rehabilitated?

The Archdiocese of Vancouver seems to believe that Larre is an upstanding member of their community who is quite frank about his past. Oh really? Then why does Larre deny the crimes he committed against the victims who appeared on the Fifth Estate documentary?

(Yes, copies are available folks...)

2. Their mother, Nathalie Gettliffe, is prevented from protecting her children because she has been shipped back to France along with her infant son, as if she were chattle.

3. Francis Gruzelle, Nathalie's common-law husband in France, says that little Josephine is talking of suicide.

4. Scott Grant, the father, thinks it is perfectly alright to have Lucien Larre hanging around these vulnerable children - no wonder Nathalie felt she had no choice but to leave him and seek refuge with her children - his judgement seems to be impaired!

5. The children are now forced to attend Scott Grant's church in Vancouver, the International Church of Christ which is alleged to contain cult elements by experts in the United States and France.

6. The children have grown up in France, they were settled in France and they were protected from influence by any church group by their mother. Now, they are forced to live in a country they do not know, with a father who is a stranger to them and who cannot communicate with them because he doesn't speak French.

7. Nathalie Gettliffe plead guilty under duress. She was told that she could return to France if she plead guilty. Her infant son was physically assaulted in prison.

8. Nathalie Gettliffe had a legitimate defense. Section 285 of the Canadian Criminal Code states that if you removed a child from its habitual residence in order to protect the child, you have a legitimate defense.

9. The State has been playing Chess with Nathalie Gettliffe and her children, Josephine and Maximilien.

Ask yourselves - qui bono? Who benefits?

Lucien Larre - a Catholic priest with a shady past who was convicted of assaulting children

Scott Grant - a father who seems to be have duped by this Catholic priest and who is controlled by his ego

B.C. Crown Counsel - re-enforcing their motto: "might is right".

Gail Dickson - B.C. Crown Counsel who has been nominated as a Supreme Court Judge - just a coincidence, nothing to worry about.

The Family lawyers - their bank accounts just got fatter.

B.C. Politicians - another show of force against the meek to keep the masses in check.

Discrimination against Nathalie Gettliffe in British Columbia Canada

Here is an "artist's" rendition of Robert Pickton, an alleged serial murderer who is on trial for the deaths of more than 11 women from Vancouver's East Side.

To look at this drawing, one has a feeling of curiosity, but because the artist does not show us the facial features of Pickton, we cannot feel any emotion towards him.

Why then would this "artist" depict Nathalie Gettliffe in such a negative and defamatory manner? (Drawing on the top left)

In our opinion it is simple: he is discriminating against this woman. The newspaper, the Vancouver Sun, which publishes the work of this "artist", is discriminating against Nathalie Gettliffe...and so it goes on until somebody puts a stop to it.

"Artist" Defames Nathalie Gettliffe in the Vancouver Sun

Have a good, long look at these two images. The first one, a drawing, by an artist, is supposed to be of Nathalie Gettliffe. It was published in the Vancouver Sun on December 04, 2006, along with a discriminating article by Jeff Lee. Now have a look at the second image, it is a photograph of Nathalie and her baby boy, Martin. Do you see any resemblance? Do you notice how the "artist" has contorted Nathalie's features, put a scowl on her face and distorted her image as a mother? This is called "defamation of character" and its intention is to incite hatred. The Vancouver Sun will be hearing from us, and so will their "artist" buddy.

2nd Letter to Wally Oppal, Attorney General of British Columbia

November 20, 2006

MR. WALLY OPPAL
Attorney General of B.C.
Room 232
Parliament Buildings
Victoria, BCV8V 1X4
Phone: 250 387-1866
Fax: 250 387-6411

RE: NATHALIE GETTLIFFE; JOSEPHINE GETTLIFFE-GRANT; MAXIMILIEN GETTLIFFE-GRANT AND MARTIN GETTLIFFE-GRUZELLE

Dear Mr. Oppal:

We have not yet received a response from you regarding our letter of November 10, 2006, wherein we advised you of our concerns for Dr.Nathalie Gettliffe and her minor children, as named above.

In this instance, we bring your attention to an incident or incidents that have been reported to us regarding the Alouette Correctional Centre for women in Maple Ridge, British Columbia.
We are told that at least two attempts to strangle Dr. Gettliffe’s infant son, Martin Gruzelle-Gettliffe, have been made by another woman in prison. The infant boy, who is forced into incarceration along with his mother through the orders of the Supreme Court of British Columbia, has been subjected to cruel and unusual treatment, as has his mother, by the Supreme Court orders which deny her bail.

Associates and colleagues have contacted the Office of the Human Rights Commissioner in Geneva, Louise Arbour, as her official intervention appears necessary to bring a halt to the ongoing violation of Dr. Gettliffe and her children’s fundamental human rights.

We remind you that a priest who previously had a criminal conviction for assaulting children continues to have unlimited access to Josephine and Maximilien Gettliffe-Grant at their father’s residence. We are concerned that your office has not taken this situation seriously. In fact, through vicarious intervention, the Crown Counsel of British Columbia appears to
be enabling this ongoing situation.

Does Crown Counsel or your office have evidence that Father Lucien Larre has rehabilitated and that he is no longer a threat to young children?

We hereby inform you that we hold the Attorney General of British Columbia and your office accountable for the safety and well-being of Nathalie Gettliffe and her children, Josephine, Maximilien and Martin, and we now trust that you will intervene in your official capacity to allow Dr. Gettliffe to exit the prison so that she may nurture her infant child in peace and have reasonable access with her two older children.
We further inform you that we hold the Ministry of Children and Family Development.

We would like to know, in writing, what your office intends to do to ensure the safety and welfare of this mother and her young children.

Sincerely,

Lisa Haeck
Canada Children First

Copy to: The Deputy Minister,
Lesley du Toit
Ministry of Children and Family Development
Victoria, British Columbia, Canada

Mr. Bruce McNeill
Director of Child Welfare, Fraser Region
British Columbia, Canada
Fax: (604) 586 4153

Letter to Attorney General of British Columbia, Mr. Wally Oppal

MR. WALLY OPPAL
Attorney General of B.C.
Room 232Parliament BuildingsVictoria, BCV8V 1X4
Phone: 250 387-1866
Fax: 250 387-6411


RE: NATHALIE GETTLIFFE; JOSEPHINE GETTLIFFE-GRANT; MAXIMILIEN GETTLIFFE-GRANT AND MARTIN GETTLIFFE-GRUZELLE

Dear Mr. Oppal:

Given your previous experience as a Judge of the Supreme Court of British Columbia, a Justice of the Court of Appeal of British Columbia, and a Director of Family Services of Vancouver, we confess our confusion in your notable detachment from the Nathalie Gettliffe-Scott Grant case.

As this case involves the safety and well-being and the fundamental human rights of four young children and their mother, we are concerned that your office has not acted upon its mandate. In your letter to your constituents on your website you state:

“I will fight to make the streets of Vancouver-Fraserview safer and to strengthen our community as a whole. I have studied and practiced in the Canadian legal system for many years and am confident that together we will create a safer community for our children.
I am committed to being an advocate for you and your issues. I will be accessible and accountable to you at all times. I welcome your concerns with open arms and give you my word that I will work to find solutions and resources to address your concerns.”
With respect, we have not seen you making the least effort to appoint a legal representative for Josephine and Maximilien Gettliffe-Grant, which is their legal right according to the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms and according to UN Convention on the Rights of the Child, nor have we seen you dedicate any effort to creating a safer community for the Gettliffe-Grant children. In fact, we are convinced that if you took the time to interview the children, they would tell you that they are desperately unhappy and afraid.
“By agreeing to undertake the obligations of the Convention, national governments have committed themselves to protecting and ensuring children’s rights and they have agreed to hold themselves accountable for this commitment before the international community.
States parties to the Convention are obliged to develop and undertake all actions and policies in the light of the best interests of the child. Canada is a State Party to the Convention.” UNCRC
As members of the public who are concerned for the safety and well-being of the two minor children, Josephine and Maximilien Grant-Gettliffe and the infant child in this case, Martin Gruzelle-Gettliffe, we would appreciate it if, in your role as Attorney General, you would provide us with answers to the following questions and your intended action with regard to this File:
1. Why was Dr. Gettliffe lured to Canada under false pretences and arrested in Vancouver after the Canadian embassy in Paris had informed her that there weren’t any outstanding charges against her and that it was safe to travel to Canada?
2. Why were Josephine and Maximilien Gettliffe-Grant lured onto a plane in France by Rev/Dr. Lucien Larre in July after their pregnant mother had been incarcerated in Canada?
3. Why did the Attorney General and the Crown Council not bother to investigate Lucien Larre to understand that in 1992 this man was arrested, charged and convicted of two counts of assaulting a minor; that he was also charged with 9 other counts, including 1 for sexual abuse?
4. Why has the father of these children, Scott Grant, allowed Lucien Larre unlimited access to both his young children since 2003 or before?
5. Why has your office not appointed an independent legal representative for the children?
6. How are we, the people of Canada, supposed to have any trust in the justice system when David Frost, a pedophile in Ontario, was released on bail in August 2006, and yet Dr. Gettliffe, a pregnant mother who claims to have acted to protect her children, was denied bail by the Supreme Court of British Columbia at the same time?
7. Why was Dr. Gettliffe forced to give birth to her son, Martin, while imprisoned?
8. Why has the low birth-weight of baby Martin been kept from the public knowledge?
9. Why has the Canadian Press not published the true facts about Dr. Gettliffe’s journey to Canada: that she came to finalize a mediation agreement that had been sent to her by Scott Grant through the Canadian Embassy in Paris?
10. Why has the Ambassador to Canada in Paris not informed the Canadian public of these facts instead of misleading the public and causing them to believe that Dr.Gettliffe only came to Canada to support her thesis?
11. Why, on the very day that B.C. Crown Council publically announced that Dr.Gettliffe would plead guilty, did the local media publish Front Page news of you speaking to women about domestic violence in Vancouver?
12 Why was Scott Grant’s speech from a podium broadcast to the public and yet, the mother’s television interview was not relayed to the Canadian public?
13. Is Dr. Nathalie Gettliffe a political prisoner in Canada?

14. Why have the children not been allowed to express their views, as is guaranteed in the UN Convention on the Rights of the Child?
15. Has your office determined whether it is true that the children are in distress and not doing well at school?
16. Is your office aware that the children are becoming depressed because they are not allowed reasonable access with their mother and that they do not have the freedom to express their own views or needs?
18. Has your office determined whether Dr.Gettliffe pleaded guilty under duress?
19. Has your office investigated the reason for the involvement of Lucien Larre in this matter? (Re:Article 36 of the UN Convention on the Rights of the Child)
20. The Attorney General of B.C. provided funding for the accused in the Air India trial. Why then will the Attorney General not provide funding for the legal representation of Dr. Gettliffe and her children?
21. We respectfully remind the Office of the Attorney General of its fiduciary duty to the minor children according to the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms and the UN Convention on the Rights of the Child, as they pertain to Josephine and Maximilien Grant-Gettliffe and to the infant Martin Gruzelle-Gettliffe who remains in prison with his mother, Nathalie Gettliffe.

We look forward to your response,


Canada Children First
B.C. Chapter
Vancouver, British Columbia
Canada